As Iāve mentioned on a previous blog post, music is a massive thing for me. Listening to a lot of the artists that I love across all genres has helped me so much over the years.
Whether itās specific lyrics which stand out, heavy guitar riffs or laid back acoustic vibes, music means a lot to me and itās so beneficial in difficult situations. Just sitting down with my earphones in and listening to an album or a couple of songs does wonders for me which Iām sure is the same for so many other people.
The same goes for Podcasts. Iām a sucker for a good storyteller and the person Iāve spoke to is fantastic at doing so. He also was in one of my favourite bands in my teenage and early adult years as well.
Sean Smith is a man of many talents. Heās a frontman, podcaster, DJ and soon to be TV presenter (stay tuned). The breakup of his former band, The Blackout had a huge impact on Sean and led him to a very uncertain time of his life.
Thankfully heās come back fighting and is now fronting his new band Raiders. Sean also DJās around the UK and is also hosting the very popular Sappenin Podcast with his friend and journalist Morgan Richards.
I couldnāt thank him enough for agreeing to speak to me and Iām sure his story will be inspiring to anyone in a difficult situation.
Youāve been open about how your life changed after the end of The Blackout. In what ways did it effect you?
Well towards the end of The Blackout we knew it was coming. After we did the video shoot for our song āWolvesā, we went back to the hotel and Rhys from the band called a meeting. During that he announced that he wanted to leave the band at the end of the year.
After that it felt like everybody was dropping off one by one until it was just me that wanted to keep the band going. Our EP hadnāt been released yet and I had the belief that when it comes out, weāll be doing ok again and carry on. The boys would regret the conversations we had about leaving and things would be great going forward.
So the EP came out and fair to say, that didnāt happen. It felt that in a way because I was the only one who wanted the band to carry on, nobody wanted to be in a band with me anymore. Deep down I knew that wasnāt the case but there was that bit of me which was looking for something to point the blame at.
I guess I looked inside and thought that because I was the only one who wanted to continue and didnāt see a problem, that I was the problem to begin with. So things went on and we did a farewell tour finishing with a few sold out nights in Merthyr which was a great way to finish things up.
Even after that I thought, surely something will come along. In the back of my mind, I still wanted the band to come back but I knew that I had to look for jobs and stuff just incase. I went to loads of people who when I was in The Blackout weād done stuff for. Folks who when we were doing stuff for them, they couldnāt get enough of us.
One of them was a particular BBC Radio DJ. When the band was together theyād ask us to come down to Radio Wales to do a session, ask us to post something or ask another band we knew get in contact. We knew we were splitting up but still had the EP to promote and this DJ had asked us to come into Radio Wales to do an acoustic set.
We did the set and I told them that Iāve always wanted to get into radio but didnāt really know how to. They said that I could come down there and I could shadow them and theyād show me what to do. That sounded like an amazing opportunity to me and kept that in mind as a week later on December 1st we announced that the band was splitting up.
I then text the DJ and asked if the offer was still on the table to come down and shadow them in order to get into radio. I sent that message in 2014 and they got back to me in February of this year and thatās because they needed something from me.
I thought that when I was leaving the band, there are options to think about. However, there are people in the music business who previously had promised that if we needed any help or whatever, theyād be there for us.
As soon as the band split up, they disappeared. They wouldnāt help like they said they would and it felt that because I wasnāt in a band anymore, they pretty much didnāt give a shit despite the help we gave them in the past.
Another example is a particular promoter who we did festivals and gigs for in the past. We made him a good bit of money and I got in touch with him as I was looking for a job. He asked me what I fancied doing and I would have done anything and started from the bottom. In response he told me that he couldnāt really help me unless I knew what I wanted to do.
Despite me pretty much begging and offering to do anything within the company, he kept telling me that they wouldnāt be gaining anything if I didnāt know what I wanted to do.
I also spoke to him about the experience with the Radio DJ and he tried to put my mind at ease by telling me that now I didnāt have The Blackout, that radio gig would have had my full time attention. Also the DJ would have been worried about their job at the same time. Thatās all well and true but donāt promise that youāre going to do something and then ignore me when I reach out for the help that youāve offered.
As I mentioned, the DJ got back to me 5 years later because they needed something. In fact they asked if The Blackout could get back together to play a small place in Pontypridd to raise money to help those who were hit by the floods we experienced in Wales earlier this year. My thought process was this is basically to make them look good and a hero. Yes it was a great cause but when it was done sheād go back to not giving a shit again and shunning us again.
Itās mad to see how many people who we made money for and helped get their foot in the door to then disappearing is a next level of disappointment and came as a shock to me. I felt lost, didnāt know what to do because my skill sets in the band was shouting at thousands of people. Thereās not many jobs you can shout at thousands of people unless itās an announcer at a football stadium or something. I didnāt have any transferable skills so honestly I had no clue what to do next.
It was a hugely uncertain time in my life until luckily for me Matthew Pritchard of āDirty Sanchezā and āDirty Veganā fame was looking for someone to manage his tattoo and barber shop part time. I was always interested in barbering and actually wanted to do that before I got into The Blackout. So he was looking for a manager, I got in touch with him and he didnāt believe me at first and asked my friend if I was serious. I ended up working for him for a bit which included running his shop in Swansea.
I also worked with Jason Perry who produced The Blackoutās last 3 albums. Heās also known for being the lead singer in the band āA and he got in touch with me. He noticed that during our recording or writing sessions, Iām always early for something. He also picked up on that Iām quick to notice trends and up and coming bands quite early. He used examples of me championing bands and artists 6 months to a year before they went huge. He said that I just have a knack for finding tidy people I guess.
Jason was doing an event which a mixture of YouTube and My First Festival which was called Hello World. It included YouTubers and musicians and was based around Internet meeting real life sort of stuff. He got in touch with me to find some acts, we worked together to help get the event sorted and sold 12 thousand tickets over two days.
Then a few people complained, The Sun newspaper picked up on it and pretty much demolished it with what they said about us and ruined it for me in a way. Then after that I started doing the podcast. That has been my saving grace. I was so done with music. When The Blackout finished, I lost pretty much all interest in music.
Apart from Frank Carter and The Rattlesnakes and Jason Butler from Fever 333 and letlive, I didnāt really fancy live music at all as a I love seeing a frontman entertain and interact with the crowd. Itās a big headed thing to say but if you put me on a stage in front of people, theyāre going to be entertained one way or another. Because I couldnāt do that, I felt pretty much done with music.
I then went to see a band in Swansea with my girlfriend. She wanted to see this band as her colleague would make her mix CDās and this band was on there. They used to be quite big and now were playing this pub/club in Swansea and my missus wanted to see them. I also knew them, so sent a text and we went down, hung out and watched them play.
There must have been 40 to 60 people. This band went on and I was watching them and realised that I was jealous of them and I wanted this so bad. So much that I felt I could go up on that stage, grab the microphone and could fake it through their set and make this more entertaining than they are now.
The crowd wasnāt into the gig and was just standing there but if you gave me that mic, Iād physically move people if it got a vibe in that room. I was so jealous and it most definitely lit a fire inside me which inspired me to get back into music.
How did you go down the road to starting up the podcast and your new band Raiders?
One day I was just having a think and thought that Iād like to start something where I could tell stories about all the things Iāve done, which is fucking nuts when you think about it. When you think about it, a boy from Merthyr Tydfil whoās first album was Guns Nā Rosesā āUse Your Illusion IIā who would then later on go to befriend a member of that same band. Itās beyond mental.
Iāve got people in my phone book who youād expect people from Merthyr to never get close to in their life. It still amazes me to this day and I surely must be the only person in Merthyr with Pharrellās number? What a mad sentence!
I posted on Twitter and asked whether I should start a YouTube channel or a podcast. Thereās a two piece Irish hip hop group named Rubber Bandits, and Blind Boy from the group replied saying that I should do a podcast. He said that I have the friends, I have the stories and I could monetise a podcast easier than a You Tube channel. In order to make money from YouTube, youād have to get hundreds of thousands or even millions of views and a podcast format is much easier to do that.
So I decided to do a podcast. Whilst I was working out what to do, Ryan Richards of Future History Management and the drummer of Funeral For A Friend invited me to go and watch Holding Absence at The Globe in Cardiff. I went along but had the mindset of where I didnāt really care that much about new bands and that they couldnāt teach me anything.
I went down there thinking it was going to be a kidās gig but it was incredible. The crowd were awesome and well into the show. I hadnāt seen a crowd like that with a band since the days of the great South Wales music scene with bands like Kids In Glass Houses, The Blackout, Funeral For A Friend, Lostprophets etc.
That eagerness and connection between the band and crowd was there with Holding Absence and I hadnāt seen it for so long. Ryan Richards had left a massive company in Raw Power Management and set up his own in Future History Management. Heās doing incredible and Holding Absence were one of the first bands he signed. Theyāve gone on and theyāre smashing it at the moment. They blew my mind and are the future of Welsh music.
I met Morgan Richards a few years previously. I knew him as a fan and a journalist at the same time. He worked at Radio Cardiff so I thought that he must have had the gear to do a podcast as he was interested in creating it with me. We went ahead with starting it up and realised he didnāt have the gear but at least he had an idea of how to do it.
Turns out that he didnāt have a fucking clue how to do that either so we were both 50/50 into a podcast but through determination and the love of doing it, we made it work. Just through some of the conversations we had for the podcast has brought my love for music back. Talking to Josh Franceschi from You Me At Six was a very interesting one, as was Lucas Woodland from Holding Absence and of course Ryan Richards from both a music and management point of view.
Just to see that Ryanās passion for music still going strong is inspiring. Heās been doing it even longer than I have and to see his passion still being there was a massive thing for me. I know heās lost a few bands that heās been in but his enthusiasm is infectious and has most definitely had a positive impact on me.
When we first started the podcast 2 years ago, I was still angry within myself and wanted to start another band after seeing that gig in Swansea. So I contacted James āBobā Davies who was also in The Blackout. He said he had some riffs so we started from there really we we both still had that creative side to unleash I guess.
We then recruited our drummer Chris āStixxā Davies and our bassist Ryan Lewis. Weāve done a few shows over the last 2 years, and have now released 4 singles in āWasting Awayā, āDestructobotā, āStill Functionā and āVnnvcvssvry Vsā. Obviously itās a bit of a shit time as it is for any bands as we canāt play shows but just being back in that creative process and playing music is just fucking incredible.
Weāll play anywhere as well as I just love playing gigs. Apart from one particular place in Carmarthen as the stage consisted of two pool tables pushed together. Fair to say that health and safety went out of the window on that one but especially now, Iāll play anywhere.
So weāve now done 104 episodes of Sappenin Podcast as we close on in our 2nd Birthday. We havenāt ran out of guests yet which still is fucking mind blowing to me. I thought weād do 4 or 5 episodes, run out of guests to talk to and it would just be me and Morgan talking to each other and nobody would be interested anymore. Here we are and this Friday (20th November) is the 2nd Birthday Special so get the cake ready!
What feelings (both good and bad) come to you when doing the podcast?
When the podcast first came out, some people were saying that I only done a podcast because I started a new band. Thatās not the case at all as it is purely coincidental as anyone who listens to the podcast will know I do it because I simply love the stories. I used to listen to every episodes of Joe Rogan and not know about 75% of the guests but Iād listen to them and their stories because I was interested.
If you give someone 5 minutes of a personās story and itās interesting, youāve usually got them. Thereās nobody apart from one band in particular who I thought their story was boring. We did an episode at Download 2019 and if we donāt know the band personally, we get in touch with their PR and they would then give us a time and how long etc.
We ask for half hour to an hour for a full episode and this band gave us 40 minutes and I thought this was awesome. As always with our guests, I asked them if there was anything they didnāt want to talk about and the singer said he didnāt want to talk about the festival, the band, the new album or music in general.
He meant that as a joke in the beginning so we started the recording. I become aware of this band from one of my all time favourite films and mentioned it to them to kick it off. The singer said that around that time they had a single that didnāt do well but the songs in the film did better and he sounded quite pissed off about it which surprised me especially as this film did quite well.
They were giving one word answers and treated it like a normal press interview so after 12 mins I stopped recording and thanked them etc. We weāre meant to have 40 minutes but I just couldnāt hack that sort of attitude. Apart from that, weāve had no problems with the guests.
Some of the podcast episodes where weāve been going to do them, Iāve havenāt been that thrilled or worried that they wonāt go well. I didnāt know Winston McCall from Parkway Drive before we did his episode quite early on. We got invited by my friend Emma and we got there and it was awesome. It went so well and I was fucking buzzing and there were a few times where I went through that process.
Everyone seems to have an interesting story. I go through the motions pretty much every week where I think āwow that went way better than I thought it wouldā. I thought the recent one with Courtney from Spirit Box wasnāt going to go well but it was awesome and what a fucking band by the way. Iām just interested in peopleās stories and thatās an important thing for a podcast.
Our stupid, comedic Welsh heads and the shit we say really helps people relax and be more open with stuff. The guest we spoke to for the birthday episode was coming out with stuff that heād never told before and thatās so cool. Thatās more than we expected from doing this and it such an enjoyable experience.
What do you feel is most misunderstood about being in a band?
Itās probably that you donāt expect such a drop off when the good times end. Like I was lucky enough to be in a band for 13 years where we had 3 top 30 albums. Plus we put Merthyr as a town back on a map and the Merthyr Rocks Festival was created all around that.
The drop off after being in a semi successful band is incredible. It was pretty much over a 3 month period after when The Blackout broke up where things were more noticeable. The difference from being Merthyr Tydfilās biggest musical export to absolutely nobody was insane. I walked past a kid with a big fringe, cut up jeans, denim jacket and I thought Iād get at least a nod here, but the kid walked straight past.
I was really surprised just how quickly the change happened. Plus as I previously mentioned, the amount people that disappeared was a shock. That was friends, people in the industry and even family members of the band as well. Iād even say loneliness is a part which isnāt noticed.
I know where was 6 of us and when youāre a touring band in tidy venues, thereās probably 10 at most with techs etc, but that can get boring as well. Itās kind of a lonely experience as you can be thousands of miles from home and feel like youāre on your own. Home comfort is a massive thing and even though youāre in a band with people you get on with, to feel that loneliness is something a lot of people donāt realise or talk about.
I donāt think itās appreciated or understood just how much work goes into a band. That could be writing but especially now Iām finding with Raiders itās just me and our drummer Stixx thatās looking after the socials and internet side of it. Thatās the only side of it as we all know at the moment with the pandemic. Bob is missing in action at the moment as heās doing his PHD and Ryan our bassist is the equivalent of a 70 year old man whoās never left his hometown of Aberdare.
Heās very technophobic as he doesnāt know how to use the Internet or calendars on his phone. He doesnāt know how to send or save anything. If we didnāt send information to him on WhatsApp he wouldnāt know anything thatās going on as emails are a no go for him either. So thatās fun as you can imagine but what Iām finding is, as weāre moving forward weāre the old men.
To be honest, I still feel like Iām 23. I think thatās down to The Blackout taking off when I was like 21/22. For the 13 years in the band, I didnāt do much growing up and looking back I donāt think Iāve aged much in that time. Perhaps itās down to the āMake Me Look Betterā thing on Zoom at the moment but I do feel like weāre old men of the scene.
What Iām seeing now is bands which much younger members in them whoāre masters with computers. They could literally put out the equivalent of an album which is mastered, mixed and sounds like itās been done by a top producer and put that out every week because theyāre a wiz on their Macs.
Then you have us four, as I said with our bassist whoās a massive technophobe I feel like weāre Dinosaurs as we still have to go to a studio to record music. Whereas most bands have one fucking genius on a laptop who can make the whole song and put it out in one day.
We donāt have a computer whiz. The closest we have is Stixx and to call him a whiz is insulting to Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates. Perhaps when we have Bill Gatesā vaccine weāll all be better at computers because of the nano chips thatās apparently in them, or whatever bollocks these conspiracy theorists are churning out.
The vaccine is going of two things. Itās either going to help get things back to normal and things like gigs can come back or itāll kill me so I donāt have to listen to these anti mask cunts anymore.
Youāve spoken about how the Patreon community which supports the podcast feels like a family. How beneficial are they to you?
Theyāve been absolutely incredible. I donāt think they realise how much theyāve saved us. Monetary wise itās important because itās the only income I have at the moment after we set out expenses. Of course I canāt DJ at the moment due to the pandemic and I was supposed to do the My Chemical Romance afterparties for the shows they were scheduled to do in Milton Keynes this year.
I was going to get paid a good bit of money to DJ for two shows so the Patreon has helped with the lack of income but more than that I would give the money up for the sake of the community thatās been created. Just to see how much they support each other is insane and absolutely bonkers to me. I see it every week and Iām getting bored on their half by saying this but I genuinely appreciate and love those guys for what theyāve done for the podcast and the community as a whole.
We say it every week but itās genuine. Thereās probably 170 people who come together and they even do gift exchanges which theyāve done amongst themselves. Theyāre all super nice people whoāre incredible supportive to me & Morgan and each other. Theyāre very open with whatās going on in their lives which makes it a very beautiful place to be involved with.
I can see how itās helping these people open up to each other and itās fucking incredible to see the pure goodness that comes out of it. We would have meet-ups at gigs and festivals, Iād personally go to visit people over lockdown to see if theyāre ok as itās been a shit time for everyone.
The support from the people is beyond incredible, more than monetary and the Skype chats have been incredible. Recently weāve had zoom parties, phone calls etc which have been awesome. I thought one or two of the people from The Blackout days might come over and support us and they have. However, a lot of the people are new to this and some even hated The Blackout. Itās just amazing to see people from all walks of life from all of the world come together to support us.
We have males, females, non binary people, a mini LGBTQ community and thereās a guy Tim whoās going through the fight of his life at the moment with chemotherapy which of course I send him all the love and best wishes for. We sadly had a member whoās passed away which was nuts. He came to see Raiders support Holding Absence in Swansea and then his missus messaged us a few weeks later to say that he took his own life.
That was of course horrible but to see the reaction of everybody rallying around each other was an amazing thing to see.
Everybody from different backgrounds have come together to support each other and us and itās just amazing. I know I say it every week but I love each and every one of them. Itās mad and genuinely a group that I never expected to happen. If you got all of those people into a room instead of the group then the results wouldnāt be the same.
I suppose that shows the good that social media can do. Of course thereās the bad side to it but it can definitely do some positive things. Theyāve created it and a wonderful family is the outcome. Another example of the pure love and support in there is the help they offered one of the Patrons whoās in the group.
He was going through a tough time both personally and professionally so the group got together and raised a fair bit of money to help him. I thought this was insane in a good way as it kept him afloat and showed just how strong this community is for each other.
But weāre still here 2 years later which I never thought weād get to let alone record 104 episodes. Weāve had our bumps but here we are.
When youāve been in difficult situations, what do you find helpful in getting through those tough times?
Comedy and sarcasm to be honest. You could listen to the song āDestructobotā by Raiders (which is available to purchase or stream via all main platforms now) and end of that song features a lyric which says āeverything has turned to shit… fuck yeah!ā. That was my approach to everything for quite a while. Things would go so wrong that if I flipped a coin 100 times and wanted heads it would land on tails 99 times and on the last one it would bounce up and poke both my eyes out.
Thatās how unlucky I was. It was getting to the point where I knew I was annoying my girlfriend, my mother and anyone else who was around me. Like if something went wrong Iād sarcastically shout āYES! Fuck yeah! Thatās exactly how I wanted it to be! I spilled the coffee? All over the laptop? Brilliant!ā
Iād become pretty much hardened to everything but Iād answer it in the most sarcastic way and it was properly pissing my girlfriend off. I thought to myself that I could deal with things that way or cry and I chose the former. When I came to write the song this was prior to all the Pandemic, Trump, Boris etc. We did a lyric video for it and that last lyric I mentioned is more poignant I guess going on whatās happened this year.
It preempted everything because it had all turned to shit for me back then but it was nothing in comparison to what it is as whole in the present day. It was perfect to bring it out now I suppose and being honest Iām surprised it hasnāt done better, especially with the final lyric. Like when a song goes viral on Tik Tok for just having 15 seconds on it, I thought putting a clip of that āeverything has turned to shit… fuck yeah!ā would launch the song and would run away with it but is hasnāt so here we are.
Music of course is massive to me. Last year around June/July I was feeling depressed but I noticed YUNGBLUD on Instagram. I was watching him and thought thereās bits of him that reminds me of me. I was watching his videos and noticed how good he is, especially with kids and stuff. I found it surprisingly inspiring especially how heās only like 23 years old I think.
So I saw him as he was up and coming, and then he posted a picture on his feed of him crowdsurfing and his legs are spread apart. The caption that supported the photo said āSpread Legs Not Liesā which of course is also the title of a song by The Blackout. I saw him at Reading Festival and felt I had to speak to him. I introduced myself and said how much his videos helped me out during a difficult time. He thanked me but those videos and the little nod to The Blackout did give me a much needed boost.
As I said, comedy is massive to me in everything I do. I honestly believe that Iām a comedian trapped in a frontmanās body. Thereās something in me thatās stopped me transitioning into comedy. I know Iām funny and I can make a lot of people laugh but I cannot be arsed to write any jokes down. Something stops me and that is bonkers. Itās like a voice inside me that says ādonāt write itā.
Iāve watched a lot of improv and open mic comedy where they just go up there and tell jokes unprepared so perhaps that might be for me I donāt know. One of my favourite comedians until last year when he was accused of a load of stuff was Chris DāElia. Watching him do crowd work was awesome. A lot of the stuff with comedians is that I can see where the joke is going and sense where the punch line is coming. So perhaps I am a comedian? I donāt know.
I watched one of the Wayans Brothersā stand up special on Netflix and I watched it. I was so disappointed as I knew most of the answers to the jokes and the laughs were the most generic ones possible as I thought the crowd were just being polite to him. So I thought if he can get a Netflix special then I could sell out Wembley!
Comedy means a lot to me and has transferred into the music. One of the early releases from The Blackout was a song called āIām A Riot? Youāre A Fucking Riotā which is a quote from a comedian named Dane Cook who was massive at the time on My Space and is probably known for the film āGood Luck Chuckā.
He had a stand up routine where heās on about the crowd heās with and heād go and find a younger, sexier crowd. Theyād then go and smash the town up on a night out and someone would say āDane, youāre a riot!ā and heād reply āIām a riot? Youāre a fucking riot!ā. Since day one comedy has been a huge influence on me and the music.
Thereās plenty of other examples as the song āYou and Your Friends VS Me and The Revolutionā is from a quote by Dave Chappelle. It features in a sketch where Eddie Murphyās brother Charlie meets Prince which is a true story. Thereās loads of other ones like āI Donāt Care (This Is Why We Canāt Have Nice Things)ā. I used to frequent a message board which has now become the most evil place in the world. When I used it, it was for memes and funny stuff.
This used to be a really funny place to go and thats where I found the title via a meme. āSHUTTHEFUCKUPPERCUTTā was inspired from there as well so itās been a running theme. Comedy has saved me if anything and the love of finding funny situations. If you do something for 10,000 hours you become good at it so I must be some sort of Comedy Historian or researcher at best.
Iāve watched every type of comedy. Even the racist crap like Bernard Manning or Roy Chubby Brown. Not because I enjoyed it but just to see what was funny back then. I watched them to see what made the crowd tick. Them from to Bill Burr, Louis CK, Dave Chappelle, Iāve just watched hours upon hours of comedy and itās kept me alive through the difficult times for sure.
Itās always played a big part in my life and helped me through. I think itās helped me in a band environment, especially playing shows. Before we were known as The Blackout, the band was called 10 Minute Preview. I was in other band called When Reason Sleeps with Alex, whoās now in a band with Brad from Pretty Vicious. We played all sorts so I had to learn and adapt. Iāve always been the ice breaker I suppose.
When we did the Kerrang! Tour with All Time Low. On the first night, they were shitting themselves because theyād listened to our stuff. They thought that all our fans would come, smash people up in the pit etc when if anything their fans and our fans liked the same stuff. You could hate the music and stuff but donāt deny that weāre entertaining between songs.
Iāve seen so many bands where the frontman hasnāt spoken to the crowd in between songs and thatās mainly why I go. Like I want Daryl from Glassjaw to tell me what he thinks about playing in Bristol Academy. I want more entertainment so I find I am that person when Iām on that stage.
You could always go on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram to get a quick fix so comedy has and is to this day a huge impact on my life. Especially how I find it essential to get me through the shit times.
What would you say to someone who is struggling and doesnāt know if talking about it is the right thing to do?
Do it. Come on you son of a bitch (said in Arnold Schwarzenegger voice). Nah, I didnāt do it for so long and it built up to where I was carrying around shit with me. It was pointless bottling it up. Get up, talk to a friend, family member or me even.
Drop me a DM. If you donāt want someone you know and feel you would benefit from having someone listen to you, just drop me a message. Itās super important but then I also understand why people donāt because you feel like a burden. Trust me, that is not the case.
Weād much rather listen to your stories from you now, than be recalling stories of you when youāre gone.
I expected honesty from Sean and I got way more than I expected. Iām so grateful and honoured that he could take the time to speak to me in between his busy schedule with the band and podcast.
As a fan, Iām so happy for the success that the podcast has brought him. He and Morgan Richards make a fantastic double act and Iād love to see perhaps a live version of it when things āget back to normalā. Itās most definitely helped me through tough times this year and like I said has reintroduced me to bands I loved in the past and brought my attention to new music as well.
Regarding his love for comedy, I can tell you it definitely transfers successfully into his performances on stage. Back in 2012, I saw The Blackout support Blink 182 and Sean had myself and the crowd in stitches as he does in any other show heās played. Heās guaranteed entertainment so if he ever did make the step to comedy, he would smash it.
Iām more so happy heās bounced back after the difficult days after the breakup of The Blackout. Itās a shame that people who claim to care donāt want to bother when they going gets tough. Iāve felt that at times and to see Sean has gone through it proves that you can really find out who really cares when you go through a shit time.
Iām chuffed that heās back in a creative role and back performing with Raiders. When weāre allowed to go to gigs I canāt wait to go and see them as the songs theyāve released have been absolute bangers.
Also, the Patreon group deserves a lot of love because theyāre incredible people. I recently joined and I swear Iāve known them for years. Theyāve made me feel so welcome and have built and incredible community based on their mutual love for the podcast and their all round caring nature.
If you havenāt checked out the podcast and/or would like to support it via Patreon, Iāve posted links below. Plus, Iāve posted information on how to find Sean and Raiders on social media plus where you can find the music.
Thanks again to Sean and as always thank you to everyone whoās taken the time to read this blog post. Stay strong, take care and until next time this isnāt goodbye, I guess itās more of a see you later!
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